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Revision as of 09:05, 17 July 2008
Appearance
Any suggestions for other skins or logos? --Holly 09:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, and we need a favicon as well I guess. --Holly 11:28, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Title
What are the games that we're interested in called? Big games, pervasive games, street games? It's been suggested that we include sports in the title (something like "new games and sports"), which is I think a good idea. --Holly 09:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- Social Games and Urban Adventures
New Games and Sports Aargh, you know how hung up I get on this question--AlexFleetwood 12:56, 16 July 2008 (UTC).
Contents
What sort of games should Ludocity include? "Anything that might run at H&S/COaP"? Should it include pick-up-and-play games like we have at the Sandpit? What about board games? Should we draw a line, and if so where?
- I say, yes to sports, yes to social games, yes to creative games, no to board games. I think that "Anything that might run at Hide and Seek / COAP is a sensible marker to start with - it gives lots of guidance and context to the sort of things we want to do--AlexFleetwood 12:56, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Apart from games, what other content do we need? I like the idea of having some how-tos, and of a bit of encyclopedic content in the relevant area (a page for each recurring event, a page for each designer, etc). --Holly 09:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- we need a record of who has run what game where - what their suggested mods / rulechanges were - their feedback for the designer. We need a method of hosting video and photos tagged to specific games. We need a records / scores facility - If the lost sport were on here it would be great to see a records table.--AlexFleetwood 12:56, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Discussion
I'm not very comfortable using wiki talk pages for discussions like this - I don't know what the alternatives are, though. Some sort of comment plug-in or forum? I suppose this page will be a decent test of how we feel about using talk pages, anyway, but I do feel like we will be excluding a significant proportion of people from discussion if we do it all here. --Holly 09:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- I agree - this is way fiddly.--AlexFleetwood 12:56, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- I could install this extension to replace Mediawiki's standard talk system (it would look something like this instead). It's a tradeoff between ease of comment submission, and ease of discussion organisation - maybe that's okay if every discussion page is for a sufficiently small subject, though. But I'll see what other options are out there. --Kevan 13:40, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Translation
Obviously we need to support rulesets in different languages, and translations of existing rulesets into different languages. Is it worth doing the Wikipedia subsite thing, or should we just have, eg, /Thoughtcrime/francais and /UnumLudumIucundum/english (or however it works) for now, and encourage language-specific subsites as we go along?--Holly 11:51, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thoughtcrime (Français) is probably the cleanest title format. We can look at actual subsites if any particular languages seem to be really taking off. --Kevan 12:43, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Copyright stuff
At the moment we have only CC noncommercial-attribution stuff. Is this workable? Is anyone going to fiercely want to choose a different licence? What about stuff like Cruel 2 B Kind, which is "anyone can run it" but is not actually CC licensed? Does that mean we can't include it on Ludocity - which seems kind-of absurd - and if we can include it, where do we draw the line? --Holly 12:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- I've added a "public domain" option (explained here) for anyone who really wants to release a game as public domain, or wants to write up and old and definitely public game.
- With not-quite-CC games, it's just up to the creator to decide whether they want to rerelease it as CC AT-NC, or as public domain. I'm not sure where we should go if a creator doesn't want to do either of those - we could still have a page describing the game and collecting photos and player reports, but I'm not sure how much we want to encourage pages that don't tell you how to play the game yourself. (Even if we did do that, it seems inevitable that someone would ask "So, what are the rules?" on the talk page, and someone else would tell them.) --Kevan 12:43, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Holly Gramazio said: | On 08:34, 17 July 2008 |
Testing the comment thing. Blah blah blah. Hmmm. | |
Reply to Holly Gramazio |
Testing as a template.